it's not about you, Rick Rubin

"Whatever the thing that makes the thing good is the thing that I'm drawn to - for me. For a long time lyrics meant very little..."

"Really? Fight for Your Right to Party - Beastie Boys?" 

"Yeah, it was fun. It was good lyrics but it wasn't what was important."

I am grateful for a podcast, a dialogue, a collection of ladders, a soreness and help.